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::How about something like [[Main Page/Test|This]]? ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 11:22, 9 January 2013 (CET) | ::How about something like [[Main Page/Test|This]]? ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 11:22, 9 January 2013 (CET) | ||
:::Looks good to me, I have improved it a little bit. Nemo? [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 11:30, 9 January 2013 (CET) | :::Looks good to me, I have improved it a little bit. Nemo? [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 11:30, 9 January 2013 (CET) | ||
:::Will try to make that automatic with the template. [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 11:52, 9 January 2013 (CET) | |||
::::Should work now, does it look ok? I've left the complete list on the main page, otherwise we should 1) translate the link to the full list when not on the English main page, 2) think about the languages which have dumps but not a main page. It's just a matter of changing a parameter in the template call, if you want the English main page to be more compact. [[User:Nemo|Nemo]] 12:30, 9 January 2013 (CET) | |||
:::::Thank you Nemo, have fixed a few details. Seems to be almost perfect now. [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 13:32, 9 January 2013 (CET) | |||
May you add the other translations of "→ Full list with all languages..." to the template? I tried but the result was negative! ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 09:53, 10 January 2013 (CET) | |||
:Done [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:02, 10 January 2013 (CET) | |||
::And I think it's better to remove the "Others" section from the main pages. It's enough if they would be just in the template, isn't it? ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET) | |||
::: Yes. Feel free to [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kiwix join on IRC] to talk, it's easier than the discussion page [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET) | |||
== Further step proposition == | |||
;This template is a great success, it really helps people to find what they want. It's used on: | |||
* [[Wikipedia_in_all_languages]] (also available localized with [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia_in_all_languages]]), which listed all Wikipedia content in a localised fashion. | |||
* [[Wikipedia]], (also available localized with [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia]]), which list the Wikipedia (selections) available in your language. In English (only), in addition it also append [[Template:ZIMdumps/Others]] at the end. | |||
* It's used as storage backend for the [http://www.kiwix.org/m/index.html Download content page for mobile devices] | |||
;So, this is well used. But this suffer of a few weaknesses: | |||
* It's not possible to add non-Wikipedia content (the [[Template:ZIMdumps/Others]] is only a English-specific workaround) | |||
* We can't deal with permanent shortcuts which are available for all content, like for example [http://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia_en_all_nopic.zim this ZIM file] or [http://download.kiwix.org/portable/wikipedia_en_all_nopic.zip.torrent this portable file]. | |||
* It's not possible to make a link to the online demo, for example [http://library.kiwix.org/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/ for the English Wikipedia] (if exists). | |||
* We don't have small logo to illustrate the entries, something which would be nice, in particular if we have different type of content | |||
* The whole wiki setup is a little bit complicated, especially because the [[template:ZIMdumps/row]] template doesn't use named parameter, but not only. The solution to translate the table header is not the best one, we should use the new translate extension features. | |||
* We need to fill this table manually | |||
* Table should be sortable | |||
;What should we do: | |||
* The best solution would be to have a serious DB and work with it. We have also other problem in Kiwix itself because we don't have a proper library storage backend. This is something we will change, but this is not the priority for the next 15 monthes, so we need to find a temporary solution to improve the user experience, without rewriting everything. This is why I propose to rewrite this template in a better way and maybe, in a second step automatize the updates. | |||
;Technical propositions: | |||
* Rewrite the template(s) in a smarter/cleaner way to achieve to fix the current limitations (adding new "fields/parameters") | |||
* Use the extension:translate for the translation and remove custom translations based on parserFunctions from the template | |||
* At the end, write a script to update the template, based on [http://www.kiwix.org/library.xml the online library] [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] ([[User talk:Kelson|talk]]) 18:15, 2 November 2013 (CET) | |||