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:Done [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:02, 10 January 2013 (CET)
:Done [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:02, 10 January 2013 (CET)
::And I think it's better to remove the "Others" section from the main pages. It's enough if they would be just in the template, isn't it? ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET)
::And I think it's better to remove the "Others" section from the main pages. It's enough if they would be just in the template, isn't it? ●[[User:Mehran|<span style="color:Navy; font-size:100%; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Mehran'''</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Mehran|<font color="orange">''Debate''</font>]]</sup>● 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET)
:: Yes. [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET)
::: Yes. Feel free to [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kiwix join on IRC] to talk, it's easier than the discussion page [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] 10:11, 10 January 2013 (CET)
 
== Further step proposition ==
 
;This template is a great success, it really helps people to find what they want. It's used on:
* [[Wikipedia_in_all_languages]] (also available localized with [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia_in_all_languages]]), which listed all Wikipedia content in a localised fashion.
* [[Wikipedia]],  (also available localized with [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia]]), which list the Wikipedia (selections) available in your language. In English (only), in addition it also append [[Template:ZIMdumps/Others]] at the end.
* It's used as storage backend for the [http://www.kiwix.org/m/index.html Download content page for mobile devices]
 
;So, this is well used. But this suffer of a few weaknesses:
* It's not possible to add non-Wikipedia content (the [[Template:ZIMdumps/Others]] is only a English-specific workaround)
* We can't deal with permanent shortcuts which are available for all content, like for example [http://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia_en_all_nopic.zim this ZIM file] or [http://download.kiwix.org/portable/wikipedia_en_all_nopic.zip.torrent this portable file].
* It's not possible to make a link to the online demo, for example [http://library.kiwix.org/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/ for the English Wikipedia] (if exists).
* We don't have small logo to illustrate the entries, something which would be nice, in particular if we have different type of content
* The whole wiki setup is a little bit complicated, especially because the [[template:ZIMdumps/row]] template doesn't use named parameter, but not only. The solution to translate the table header is not the best one, we should use the new translate extension features.
* We need to fill this table manually
* Table should be sortable
 
;What should we do:
* The best solution would be to have a serious DB and work with it. We have also other problem in Kiwix itself because we don't have a proper library storage backend. This is something we will change, but this is not the priority for the next 15 monthes, so we need to find a temporary solution to improve the user experience, without rewriting everything. This is why I propose to rewrite this template in a better way and maybe, in a second step automatize the updates.
 
;Technical propositions:
* Rewrite the template(s) in a smarter/cleaner way to achieve to fix the current limitations (adding new "fields/parameters")
* Use the extension:translate for the translation and remove custom translations based on parserFunctions from the template
* At the end, write a script to update the template, based on [http://www.kiwix.org/library.xml the online library] [[User:Kelson|Kelson]] ([[User talk:Kelson|talk]]) 18:15, 2 November 2013 (CET)

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